Em’s notes: As of July 2014 I have not had any pump site absorption issues that I’ve noticed but thought this message string maybe helpful in case it does come up. At this time I’ve been using an insulin pump for about 11 years.
On Wed, 18 Jun 2014 16:55:41 PST, F51 wrote:
Each time I start a new infusion set I have absorption issues for the first 5 hours or so. Anyone know the cause of this and any tips to avoid this?
I already eat pretty low carb, but after eating an egg breakfast my blood sugar spikes and even if I inject several units it doesn’t seem to budge until hours later when my blood sugar crashes.
After that the infusion site works great so I don’t think it’s scar tissue or anything like that.
Just wondering how others deal with this.
On Wed, 18 Jun 2014 16:59:22 PST, F123 wrote:
F51,
Have you tried any other insulin? You may try this and get good results. I
had issues with humalog, when I changed to Aprida…no more issues.
Good luck!
On Wed, 18 Jun 2014 17:02:11 PST, F58 wrote:
I found I have to prime 5 units instead of the .5 or .7 they normally recommend. This was the case with either U500 or U100.
On Wed, 18 Jun 2014 17:06:51 PST, F124 wrote:
I have the problem from time to time and I use Apidra.
On Wed, 18 Jun 2014 17:16:28 PST, F51 wrote:
I just switched from novolog to humalog because of insurance, but I had the same problem before but maybe not as pronounced. But it has always been a problem with either insulin.
On Wed, 18 Jun 2014 17:21:02 PST, F75 wrote:
This is a common phenomenon that occurs quite often with many pumpers. I believe the tissue beneath the cannula needs to be saturated with insulin before
it is release. And it often seems like the insulin kicks in all at once several hours later. I always give some extra insulin to start a new site.
On Wed, 18 Jun 2014 18:16:49 PST, F84 wrote:
If you’re pulling the old set out immediately, you’re likely losing insulin. Many of us leave the old site in for 2 or 3 hours after doing a change-out. That leaves the insulin in the pipeline (so to speak) to absorb instead of losing it.
On Wed, 18 Jun 2014 18:20:09 PST, F51 wrote:
Have tried both. Sometimes leave the other one in for a extra few hours just to be able to bolus for a meal and not have to worry about it.
On Wed, June 18, 2014 18:25:23 PST, F125 wrote:
I sometimes do a 10% temporary basal rate for a few hours to speed up the release of insulin with a new site.
On Wed, June 18, 2014 18:35:55 PST, F115 wrote:
If you’ve been pumping for a long time, it may be time for a longer cannula?
On Thu, 19 Jun 2014 05:00:08 PST, F53 wrote:
Now that’s a notion. When I started pumping, because I am somewhat overweight, I was told I needed the 9 mm cannula. A friend gave me some 6 mm. I was afraid it would pull out. Amazing to me, I had great results. So I can use either one. I also get some highs after an infusion change; but they are random. I had not thought much because I wait until the reservoir is empty to change. I reasoned that the pump could not possibly push the last drop out. My prime is at .7
On Thu, 19 Jun 2014 06:32:33 PST, F51 wrote:
I also leave my old site in place for a good while. I usually do my site changes in the morning, and I’ll usually leave the old one in there until the following morning and remove it in the shower. That way if it starts gushing blood I don’t have to worry about blood getting everywhere.
If the old site is irritating me I’ll remove it as soon as it starts to irritate me though.
I also try to change my reservoir when there are about 50 units left. I too seem to notice poorer absorption and higher BGs if I wait until the last minute to change the reservoir.
On Thu, 19 Jun 2014 08:24:05 PST, F115 wrote:
I often change the infusion site when it is time (I do notice less absorption after day 3) without changing the reservoir – hate to waste the insulin.
On Thu, 19 Jun 2014 08:27:06 PST, F126 wrote:
Very interesting observation, F51. But it doesn’t make sense. Does it also happen if you just inject the bolus with a syringe? If not, then how does your body know that that first bolus is coming from a needle or a catheter? If it also happens with an injection, then it has something to do with the insulin.
–F126
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On Thu, 19 Jun 2014 08:42:13 PST, F51 wrote:
It has been so long since I bolued with a syringe I might be scared to try 🙂 But that is a good suggestion to try. Back when I was on MDI many years ago I never remember having a problem. It may be the needle is going further or that needles are less prone to getting tissue inside of them vs. a cannula? Don’t know.
On Thu, 19 Jun 2014 10:21:18 PST, F124 wrote:
I do leave the old site in for a few hours.
On Thu, 19 Jun 2014 10:37:47, F127 wrote:
This has happened to me frequently. I may be nuts, but I massage the area on my stomach thinking I am helping that insulin get going. Seems to work. I like the
idea of shooting extra insulin in at change. I will try that one. Thanks.
On Thu, 19 Jun 2014 10:47:02, F115 wrote:
Now I recall, when first Dx’d (30+ years ago) it was recommended that I massage the area right after injecting. I also up the fill cannula amount depending
on whether or not it is in “virgin territory”. If it is, then I don’t up the recommended amount by much, it is is somewhat older territory (i.e. previously used before) I increase the cannula prime amount by more.
On Thu, 19 Jun 2014 11:13:46, F60 wrote:
I was having the same new site absorption issues and I considered going back to shots, it was so frustrating. Then one day I thought about injections with a
steel needle working so well, perhaps the plastic might be the problem. So I took a Sure T which has a steel needle and inserted it the same way that I did with shots. It turned out that the steel needle was the answer because it delivers the insulin with no hang ups what so ever. Since then, my Hbac went from 7.2 in January to 6.1 in my latest test.
On Thu, 19 Jun 2014 13:47:54, F128 wrote:
Some people forget to prime the new cannula when changing. The amount of space varies from .2 to .7 depending on the infusion set used. The prime rate would be found on the information sheet within each box or check with a CDE. I have found Novalog has a delayed starting absorption. Humalog works more quickly.
F128, type 1 for 61 yrs, tslim
On Thu, 19 Jun 2014 15:15:05, F62 wrote:
> Each time I start a new infusion set I have absorption issues for the first 5 hours or so. Anyone know the cause of this and any tips to avoid this?
Besides leaving the old site (unhooked from pump) in for a few hours to assure complete absorption, the new one can be tested by rehooking the old site. If your BG returns to normal, then the new site is at fault and a new one needs to be placed.
Do you also fill the canula with the recommended amount the instructions for your infusion sets give? Do you do a prime until there is a *healthy drip* emerging from the tip of the canula before inserting it? Do you stay away at least 1″ in a month before returning near that place and avoid 2″ from the navel?
I was having problems until I rotated from my right thigh (lap area) to my left, then lower right stomach, to the left; then right abdomen to left. Then I return to my thigh. *I* changer every 4-5 days so it is a good many days before returning near to an area. It has made a huge improvement for me. Also, a few years ago Humalog failed me and I switched to Novolog with success.
Vheck well for bubbles.
Try one thing at a time so you know which one works for you. Best to you.
F62- T-1, 11/5/50, pumping 8/23/83, Dialyzing 7/8/02
On Fri, 20 Jun 2014 06:23:48, F53 wrote:
When my BG is very high, I bolus with a syringe/needle. It seems to work better than bolusing with the pump. I speculate that it has to do with the fact that I take the shot in my legs, not by abdomen that old territory (used a lot for infusions).